FurAffinity: did you de-admin anyone?
SwishytailDragon: Yes, Yes I did.
SwishytailDragon: OzKangaroo and Roo. And I know you'll ask why, so here are my reasons. Oz, because of his actions towards users, and his seeming lack of an ability to use punctuation and grammar. And Roo, because, I do not feel it's good for the site to have admins who seem unable to even use a spellchecker.
FurAffinity: He is MY mate
FurAffinity: he is co-owner
SwishytailDragon: Your point? Just because they are your mate, doesn't mean they should be an admin.
FurAffinity: you do NOT de-admin anyone without my permission
SwishytailDragon: And why not.
FurAffinity: it's MY site
FurAffinity: you are not in charge of it
SwishytailDragon: I wrote part of it. I fix YOUR cockups. I pay for it. I deal with the users.
FurAffinity: I am currently extremely stressed right now, i am taking a break because i HAVE to
FurAffinity: you are only making things worse for me
SwishytailDragon: And you think that I am not stressed?
FurAffinity: you want my trust?
FurAffinity: you do this?
SwishytailDragon: I just understand the responsibility that comes with something like FA.
FurAffinity: you consider yourself my friend?
FurAffinity: and you just go ahead over what i say?
SwishytailDragon: I am doing what I feel is best for FurAffinity.
SwishytailDragon: And as the saying goes Jheryn, if you cannot take the heat, get out of the kitchen.
FurAffinity: It's my fucking site.
FurAffinity: you should still check with me
FurAffinity: you've done things and not even asked me about them
SwishytailDragon: And you have done exactly the same.
FurAffinity: you don't get it...it's my site...I am allowed to do that
FurAffinity: I created FA
FurAffinity: I appreciate everything people do for the site
FurAffinity: but it's hard to do it
FurAffinity: when people have been doing the things they do
SwishytailDragon: Unless you have paid for it, managed it, and coded every single line yourself, then it is not your site. It is many people's site. It is a site of the users, through the submissions they make. It's a site of the programmers, for the code that the write.
FurAffinity: I DID code every line of the site
FurAffinity: DevoyBB is Mine!
FurAffinity: I coded that too
FurAffinity: FA is based off of devoybb
SwishytailDragon: Initially, you did. But over time it grew, changed, incorporated code from others.
SwishytailDragon: And now, I do not want to see all of what FA has become, lost, because of stupidity, or arrogance, or people just simply not being good enough for the job.
SwishytailDragon: And like I said, having administrators who cannot even use the english language properly, is a detriment to FurAffinity.
FurAffinity: you were origionally brought in to take care of the server...I appreciate your help
FurAffinity: but you have no right to claim ownership to everything i have done
FurAffinity: and say i am doing nothing
SwishytailDragon: I have never said you are doing nothing. I just don't think you are doing the right things.
FurAffinity: Right things?so you are saying you are right and i am wrong?
SwishytailDragon: Yes I am.
FurAffinity: it's my site
FurAffinity: they are my admins
FurAffinity: Ii decide who is an admin
FurAffinity: not you
SwishytailDragon: Why should I also not be able to decide? I have done just as much for FA as you have.
FurAffinity: no...not really...I wrote everything for FA...you helped to bugfix things...
FurAffinity: you helped with people
FurAffinity: yes, but i did the most work outa everyone
SwishytailDragon: So, I am guessing that you are going to reinstate both Roo, and Oz. Would I be correct in this assumption?
FurAffinity: already done
SwishytailDragon: *sighs* Why? Even though both have demostrated themselves of incapable of acting in a way someone should act in such a position?
FurAffinity: roo has done a good job...he just types wrong sometimes...
FurAffinity: Oz has done a great job in handling things
SwishytailDragon: Would you be happy if you called up your cable company (Or DSL company) and the person you talked to slurred down the phone, and made it almost impossible for you to understand him?
SwishytailDragon: And no, Oz hasn't.
FurAffinity: roo doesn't post that many things
FurAffinity: he contacts users
FurAffinity: helps me when i need it
FurAffinity: and i can talk to me in person
FurAffinity: He knows what i want and need
SwishytailDragon: My mate can talk to me in person and knows what I want or need, but I wouldn't make him an admin on a site I run, as he just isn't the right kind of person.
SwishytailDragon: And nor is Roo.
FurAffinity: that is NOT your decision tho
FurAffinity: it isn't
FurAffinity: you do not run my teams
SwishytailDragon: And I am saying, that your decision-making is unsound.
FurAffinity: in your eyes it is
FurAffinity: not mine
SwishytailDragon: You've appointed many people, for reasons I can only see as them being your friend, to elevated positions that they have neither the right temperament, nor qualifications for.
FurAffinity: I appointed my friends becuase i know them
FurAffinity: they've done a good job in other places
SwishytailDragon: But they are not doing a good job here.
SwishytailDragon: And I would like to lodge a complaint with you. I am extremely unhappy with paying for FA if this is going to be how it's run.
SwishytailDragon: No response, Jheryn?
FurAffinity: I am angry...
FurAffinity: you took over that job
FurAffinity: on your own
FurAffinity: you changed the donation link
FurAffinity: I let that go
FurAffinity: I swallowed my pride
SwishytailDragon: Jheryn, you know, as well as I do, when I took over running the server, that that would have to happen to ensure that it got paid.
SwishytailDragon: So, I think it is coming down to this. I want more power, or I will remove support. Because I don't want to pay for FA, just to have you run it into the ground.
FurAffinity: remove support, because you are not running my site
SwishytailDragon: It's done. Feel free to de-admin me now, if you wish.
Arcturus, words fail me to describe your rude behaviour and arrogance.
Since people are jumping on me and I hate to repeat the same thing over and over again:
- I really HATE when people draw "I have the money, I have the power" into the discussion.
- Ask yourself. Who would you consider a mod/operator for the site which you'd run first? A random person out of the blue or a friend? You may say that's wrong, but you'd do the same thing if given opportunity... Arcturus decided to run a site with his buddies. That doesn't make him a better person.
- AFAIK from the TOS the de-opping or banning users from the site was decided over by all of the mods/admins or Jheryn himself.
- How supporting trolls and flammers is helping the site? If Arcturus actually cared for the site he take actions against the trolls. It's like shooting yourself in the foot and telling that's perfectly alright.
- Grammar/Spelling is NOT a valid argument in the discussions over people competence.
- Since we're talking money here. Where the money from donations will go now? Since Arcturus held the money...
- Remember who IS the owner of the SITE, NOT the owner of the SERVER.
- I have experience in running Internet communities. I know all the behind the scenes dirty moves people are pulling. I know how mods/ops are elected. And I know how to keep peace in those communties. Actions of Arcturus reminded me of a certain OP that had the aspirations of taking over a WHOLE community cause he was over-confident in his ablitities. In the End he ended like Arkie.
EDIT 2: Since I don't feel wrong for doing it, but I really don't like to act like a coward and delete the posts, I'm just switching off the abilitiy to comment on this thread. If you need flamming take it elsewhere. I stated my opinion, some of you couldn't start an inteligent discussion other than using troll/flamming rethorics.
You may all hate me now for it, but yeah, that's how I act, wheter you like it or not. I apologise to Jheryn for bringing this up and if he wants to he can delete the post for all that I care. I certainly won't apologise to Arcturus for stating my honest opinion about him. If someone still needs the urge to argue with me, you have my LJ, you have the IMs, you have the E-mails. Right now we don't need to start another stupid trainwreck about which admin has the biggest e-balls.
EDIT 3: Since some of you don't seem to get it. Okay I'm enabling you to comment on this thread. If you'll still act like a bunch of idiots, it will be against you. You're pathetic with that little "Freedom of Speech" thing, more hollow words than common sense.